8309628043">

GROUSE HUNTING TRIPS SINCE 2008

CATEGORIES
YEAR
ARCHIVE TAGS
Frost Fire Grouse Hunting
By the Numbers
Now there's some time to sit down and analyze the recently passed grouse guiding season. Frequent readers of the blog know that I keep a "tote board" of each grouse season (except the first season that I guided, in 2008), but this year I want to put some context with the numbers that we have collected during our five-week guiding season.

Please keep in mind that this analysis is of the statistics
to this point in the season - it does not include any hunting that I might do from here until December 31. The numbers have been compiled with clients of all ages (ranging from young to old) and experience levels in grouse hunting. For some, their first experience hunting the Gray Ghost was with me this year, while other clients already had an impressive resume of grouse hunting. Shooting abilities and physical limitations also played a part in these numbers. As you probably know by now, those that can walk farther for longer will probably see more grouse than those walking the roads ... especially after the birds have gotten some pressure along the edges.

Season Totals

Our NH coverts got a lot more attention this season than our Vermont areas
(138.0 hours to 27.5), as would be expected, but the bird finding seemed to be better in the granite state than Vermont. A major reason might be that most of our better woodcock coverts are located in NH, which can skew the numbers, particularly in October.

We moved a total of 575 birds in 31 days of hunting. Of those, 463 were grouse, making the remaining 112 woodcock. That averages out to 14.93 grouse moved per day (a 40% increase from 2019), and 3.61 woodcock seen per day, which is a sizable drop from the number we hit last year. We generally hope to move about 20 birds a day, so we might've been a bit lower in our average this year, but it is, after all ... hunting.

Our best day of encountering grouse this year was 29 moved, on October 5. Our lowest total was a modest 5, encountered on November 3, a day after a lingering snowstorm dumped 4-5" of snow in the uplands. We worked hard for them that day ...

On the woodcock, we had several good days, with the best being October 8, when we moved 14 woodcock. There were several other solid timberdoodle finding days too, but it seemed that the season ended prematurely on them. The vast majority were gone from our area by the end of October, as chilling temperatures and several different snow falls moved them out, ahead of the typical schedule.

As you might expect, the best hunting and bird finding seems to be in the first two weeks of the season. For one, there's a lot of young and inexperienced birds still around, and this year the shooting chances were there too, as our foliage dropped early. Our best day was 32 birds total between grouse and woodcock on October 5, but we had quite a few great days in the first two weeks of the season. We wish we had more throughout the season, but that's how grouse hunting is sometimes.

Bird finding opportunities became much more difficult over the last couple weeks of the season. Not only were the woodcock gone, but our changing
(and challenging) weather made things difficult. Also, the natural attrition of the hunting season on the first year birds meant that we were hunting grouse experienced in eluding hunters and dogs alike, and it showed.

Grouse & Woodcock Hunting by the Week

Week 1 (10/1 - 7): 180 birds moved (31% of the season total). 156 grouse, 24 woodcock. Took 7 grouse, 4 woodcock.

Week 2 (10/8 - 14): 139 birds moved (24%). 96 grouse, 43 woodcock. Took 6 grouse and 8 woodcock.

Week 3 (10/15 - 21): 56 birds moved (10%). 33 grouse, 23 woodcock. Took 1 grouse, 3 woodcock.

Week 4 (10/22 - 28): 96 birds moved (17%). 74 grouse, 22 woodcock. Took 1 grouse, 6 woodcock.

Week 5 (10/29 - 11/4): 83 birds moved (14%). 83 grouse. Took 4 grouse.

Week 6 (11/5 - 9): 21 birds moved (4%). 21 grouse. Took 1 grouse.

Reading in to the numbers, it's apparent that the first two weeks of the season were great for us. Not only did we find a lot of birds, but my clients also had some good chances on them as the early leaf drop helped mightily. With the prevalence of young grouse and woodcock, we had a better than average number of sticking points by the dogs, resulting in a better kill rate
(25 of the 41 birds we took this season were in the first two weeks of October).

Conversely, the latter two weeks of the season were tougher as our cold and snowy weather got the woodcock on the move earlier than normal. The woodcock finding was pretty steady through much of October however. In short, the grouse numbers were definitely better this year than most years, and woodcock numbers were mostly average, at least for our gang.

The Performance of the Dogs

Rosie (4 yrs): 8 grouse & 10 woodcock taken
Bode (7 yrs): 5 grouse & 3 woodcock taken
Monty (10 yrs): 5 grouse & 5 woodcock taken

Rosie and Bode got the bulk of the work, in an attempt to keep the pressure off Monty and while all of the dogs did really well this season, with great cooperation and many points, Rosie continued showing that she's a true grouse and woodcock specialist. She had some really amazing days out there this year. Bode had many solid sessions as well, quite a few of which went unrewarded. While Monty didn't run as much as the younger dogs, he made his time count in the grouse woods - he proved that he's still a great grouse finder ...

The remaining five birds were either taken over clients's dogs or without the aid of a dog
(wild flushes). I wish I had statistics of points from all of the dogs, but there's simply no way to do it without losing sight of the big picture (getting clients in to position to take a safe shot). Rosie would probably have led in this category as well.
Back
Grouse hunting in northern New Hampshire
By the Numbers
Now there's some time to sit down and analyze the recently passed grouse guiding season. Frequent readers of the blog know that I keep a "tote board" of each grouse season (except the first season that I guided, in 2008), but this year I want to put some context with the numbers that we have collected over the last five weeks.

Please keep in mind that this analysis is of the statistics
to this point in the season - it does not include any hunting that I might do from here until December 31. The numbers have been compiled with clients of all ages (ranging from 28 to 79 years old) and experience levels in grouse hunting. For some, their first experience hunting the Gray Ghost was with me this year, while other clients already had an impressive resume of grouse hunting. Shooting abilities and physical limitations also played a part in these numbers. As you probably know by now, those that can walk farther for longer will probably see more grouse than those walking the roads ... especially after the birds have gotten some pressure along the edges.

Season Totals

Our NH coverts got a lot more attention this season than our Vermont areas
(147.5 hours to 24.5), as would be expected, but the bird finding seemed to be better in the granite state than Vermont. A major reason might be that most of our better woodcock coverts are located in NH, which can skew the numbers, particularly in October.

We moved a total of 568 birds in 32 days of hunting. Of those, 340 were grouse, making the remaining 228 woodcock. That averages out to 10.625 grouse moved per day, and 7.125 woodcock seen per day. We generally hope to move about 20 birds a day, so we might've been a bit lower in our average this year, but it is, after all ... hunting.

Our best day of encountering grouse this year was 21 moved. This happened twice, on October 11 and 15. Our lowest total was a modest 2 encountered on October 5, when my clients and I worked a trail edge one afternoon
(physical limitations). On the woodcock, we had quite a few great days, but the best day was our first out there. On October 1, we moved 19 woodcock, but there were several days in the upper teens throughout the season as well.

Three times we encountered 30 birds total between grouse and woodcock. Those exceptional days were on October 4, 10 and 15. We wish we had more, but that's how grouse hunting is sometimes.

Grouse & Woodcock Hunting by the Week

Week 1 (10/1 - 7): 117 birds moved (20% of the season total). 45 grouse, 72 woodcock. Took 1 grouse, 10 woodcock.

Week 2 (10/8 - 14): 128 birds moved (22%). 79 grouse, 49 woodcock. Took 6 woodcock.

Week 3 (10/15 - 21): 107 birds moved (19%). 71 grouse, 36 woodcock. Took 4 grouse, 3 woodcock.

Week 4 (10/22 - 28): 114 birds moved (20%). 61 grouse, 53 woodcock. Took 3 grouse, 7 woodcock.

Week 5 (10/29 - 11/4): 65 birds moved (11%). 49 grouse, 16 woodcock. Took 2 grouse, 1 woodcock.

Week 6 (11/5 - 7): 47 birds moved (8%). 34 grouse, 13 woodcock. Took 3 grouse, 2 woodcock.

Reading in to the numbers, it's apparent that the first two weeks of the season can be pretty good, especially if you like to shoot woodcock. They hold better for the dogs, and even with the screen of thick foliage they can present obtainable targets. The grouse shooting is tough the first two weeks of the season due to the foliage, but it gets better as we get in to late October and early November. Reflected in the numbers those first two weeks of the season are birds that we hear flush but not necessarily get a shot on. As the foliage drops, we are getting better visibility on the birds, offering at least a semblance of a shot.

Woodcock numbers are highest through most of October, and this year played out like most others in regards to the migration. Birds were moving out at the very end of October and early November as we would expect, and I'm sure the numbers also reflect seasonal hunting losses as well. Our best week of moving woodcock was Week 1, then a steady drop the next two weeks until a bump up in Week 4 with the arrival of fresh migrants from the north. The weather remained temperate this year, and our coldest days have been in the last week. The woodcock should all be gone next week, one would imagine.

The Performance of the Dogs

Rosie (3 yrs): 2 grouse and 11 woodcock taken
Bode (6 yrs): 3 grouse, 7 woodcock taken
Monty (9 yrs): 2 grouse, 2 woodcock taken

Rosie and Bode got the bulk of the work this year, in an attempt to take pressure off Monty. When Monty came up lame for a couple of weeks, Bode and Rosie were running nearly every day. This surely helped Rosie develop in to a solid worker and she had some great sessions out there. Bode also was very good this year and his patterning is excellent. Monty resumed his bird finding in the last two days and had more great moments, pointing four grouse, one of which was taken. Now, they get to rest a little ...

The remaining 6 grouse and 9 woodcock were either taken over clients's dogs or without the aid of a dog
(wild flushes). I wish I had statistics of points from all of the dogs, but there's simply no way to do it without losing sight of the big picture (getting clients in to position to take a safe shot). Rosie would probably have led in this category as well.
Back

2024:

2023: 222.5 Hours
VT Hours: 65.5
NH Hours: 157.0
VT Birds Moved: 143
NH Birds Moved: 430
Birds Taken:
14 Grouse (VT - 4, NH - 10)
43 Woodcock (VT - 7, NH - 36)

2022: 123.0 Hours
VT Hours: 49.5
NH Hours: 73.5
VT Birds Moved: 96
NH Birds Moved: 178
Birds Taken:
11 Grouse (VT - 5, NH - 6)
6 Woodcock (VT - 2, NH - 4)

2021: 193.5 Hours
VT Hours: 66.0
NH Hours: 127.5
VT Birds Moved: 226
NH Birds Moved: 427
Birds Taken:
36 Grouse
21 Woodcock

2020: 199.5 Hours
VT Hours: 36.0
NH Hours: 163.5
VT Birds Moved: 77
NH Birds Moved: 552
Birds Taken:
24 Grouse
21 Woodcock

2019: 184.5 Hours
VT Hours: 28.0
NH Hours: 156.5
VT Birds Moved: 65
NH Birds Moved: 509
Birds Taken:
14 Grouse
29 Woodcock

2018: 144.0 Hours
VT Hours: 32.0
NH Hours: 112.0
VT Birds Moved: 114
NH Birds Moved: 417
Birds Taken:
18 Grouse
12 Woodcock

2017: 180.5 Hours
VT Hours: 44
NH Hours: 136.5
VT Birds moved: 110
NH Birds moved: 407
Birds Taken:
23 Grouse
24 Woodcock

2016: 178 Hours
Birds moved: 563
Birds/Hr Avg.: 3.16

Birds Taken:
23 Grouse
30 Woodcock

2015: 202.0 Hours
Birds moved: 607
Birds/Hr Avg.: 3.0

Birds Taken:
18 grouse
26 woodcock

2014: 138.0 hours
Birds moved: 350
Birds/hr. Avg.: 2.53

Birds Taken:
17 grouse
17 woodcock

2013: 152 Hours
Birds moved: 480
Birds/hr. Avg.: 3.15

Birds Taken:
20 grouse
27 woodcock

2012: 114 Hours
Birds moved: 526
Birds /Hr Avg.: 4.61

Birds Taken:
22 grouse
4 woodcock

2011: 161 Hours
Birds moved: 522
Birds / Hr Avg.: 3.24

Birds Taken:
34 grouse
21 woodcock

2010: 139.5 Hours
Birds moved: 430
Birds / Hr Avg.: 3.08

Birds Taken:
26 grouse
21 woodcock

2009: 93.5 Hours
Birds moved: 307
Birds / Hr Avg.: 3.28

Birds Taken:
16 grouse
14 woodcock

2008: 82.5 Hours
Birds moved: 188
Birds / Hr Avg.: 2.27

Birds Taken:
10 grouse
5 woodcock

frost-fire-logo-red